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Friday, February 22, 2008

Is Barrack Obama Another Al Gore?

Here is an intersting article that questions the integrity of Barrack Obama's speech in a black church in Selma, Alabama. It reminds me of Al Gore's bs ala "I invented the Internet" lies.

Say What, Barack?

By Paul R. Hollrah

Tuning in to C-Span recently, I found myself listening to a speech by Senator Barrack Hussein Obama, Jr. He was standing in the pulpit of a black church in Selma, Alabama, and as I studied the body language of the dozen or so black ministers standing behind the senator, I couldn't help but be reminded of the little head-bobbing dolls that people used to place in the rear windows of their 1957 Chevrolets. If their reactions are any indication, the new "Schlickmeister" of the Democrat Party is actually a pretty accomplished public speaker.

However, as he spoke, I found my b.s. alarm going off, repeatedly. But I couldn't quite figure out why until I actually read excerpts of his speech several days later. Here's part of what he said:

"...something happened back here in Selma, Alabama. Something happened in Birmingham that sent out what Bobby Kennedy called, "ripples of hope all around the world." Something happened when a bunch of women decided they were going to walk instead of ride the bus after a long day of doing somebody else's laundry, looking after somebody else's children.

"When (black) men who had PhD's decided 'that's enough' and 'we're going to stand up for our dignity,' that sent a shout across oceans so that my grandfather began to imagine something different for his son. His son, who grew up herding goats in a small village in Africa could suddenly set his sights a little higher and believe that maybe a black man in this world had a chance.

"So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an airlift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.

"This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great- grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that, (in) the world as it has been, it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. Was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama."

Okay, so what's wrong with that? It all sounds good. But is it?

Obama told his audience that, because some folks had the courage to "march across a bridge" in Selma, Alabama, his mother, a white woman from Kansas, and his father, a black Muslim from Africa, took heart. It gave them the courage to get married and have a child. The problem with that characterization is that Barrack Obama, Jr., was born on August 4, 1961, while the first of three marches across that bridge in Selma didn't occur until March 7, 1965, at least five years after Obama's parents met.

Obama went on to tell his audience that the Kennedys, Jack and Bobby, decided to do an airlift. They would bring some young Africans over so that they could be educated and learn all about America. His grandfather heard that call and sent his son, Barrack Obama, Sr., to America.

The problem with that scenario is that, having been born in August 1961, the future senator was not conceived until sometime in November 1960. So if this African grandfather heard words that ''sent a shout across oceans,'' inspiring him to send his goat-herder son to America, it was not a Democrat Jack Kennedy he heard, nor his brother Bobby, it was a Republican President, Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Obama's speech is reminiscent of Al Gore's claim of having invented the Internet, Hillary Clinton's claim of having been named after the first man to climb Mt. Everest, even though she was born five years and seven months before Sir Edmund climbed the mountain, and John Kerry's imaginary trip to Cambodia.

As one of my black friends, Eddie Huff, has said, "We need to ask some very serious questions of the senator from Illinois. It's not enough to be black, it's not enough to be articulate, and it's not enough to be eloquent and a media darling. The only question will be how deaf an ear, or how blind an eye, will people turn in order to turn a frog into a prince."

16 Comments:

Blogger Obob said...

I keep getting this feeling the bubble is going to burst. And when it does, you may have a massive Jim Jones effect on Obama's followers

6:34 AM  
Anonymous meatbrain said...

"It reminds me of Al Gore's bs ala "I invented the Internet" lies."

Clay, you really are so stupid that you still believe this myth. Gore never made that statement.

As usual, you remain utterly ignorant of the facts. No surprise there...

7:23 AM  
Blogger Clay said...

meatbrain,

Yeah, right. Just like Al Gore didn't claim that "Love Story" was based upon him, and he discovered the Love Canal.

Al Gore's idiotic lies were a feature of his 2000 campaign which everyone remembers.

Nice try.

5:35 PM  
Blogger Clay said...

obob,

Yeah there is that "Jim Jones" charisma effect with Obabama's followers. They are all on the cheering for change bandwagon. What they don't realize is that the only change Obama wants is to try and return to the failed socialist policies of LBJ and his "Great Society", the after effects of that flopped experiment in introducing socialism into a Democratic Republic such as ours we are still paying for.

5:37 PM  
Anonymous meatbrain said...

HEY DIMWIT:

You're really going to hang on to that lie about Gore claiming to have invented the Internet?

REALLY?

You truly are that stoooopid, eh?

Doesn't surprise me in the least.

Produce the proof, gimboid. Show us credible evidence that he actually said it. (NOTE: This does not mean simply finding someone else making the claim.)

Go on. You make the claim? Back it up, feeb.

4:27 PM  
Blogger Clay said...

meatbrain,

I'm suprised that you are here at my site again after the hissy fit you pitched the last time you were here and proven wrong.

Your name calling doesn't impress me at all.

This seems to be your modus operandi. Call people names, make rude, arrogant statements and demands and then pretend that that makes you somehow superior.

I have wasted more than enough time with you in the past. I'm not interested in repeating that again.

I realize that you are mesmerized with Al Gore and his lies. That is your perogative. Now go away and post some piece on your blog about just how stupid I am and how you are so much more smarter.

Only an idiot would pretend that Al Gore didn't make any outrageous statements during his 2000 election campaign. It was after all, all over the media.

btw, what's a feeb?

7:41 PM  
Blogger Clay said...

I have noticed that you have scooted away from answering the "Love Canal" and "Love Story" allegations by Al Gore.

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Kevin said...

on the topic of al gore, i think his statements were taken out of context. i found the real quote to be "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet," meaning that he promoted the internet.
as for the article; i got nothin'. it's not that i agree with it, it's just the fact that we see this kind of "omg, he lied!" kind of thing from both sides.
oh, and thank you for not (yet) using the "barrack hussein obama," or "he was raised a Muslim" lines for obama. a message to all conservatives everywhere: that is the stupidist reason for hate i have heard.

9:20 PM  
Anonymous meatbrain said...

"Only an idiot would pretend that Al Gore didn't make any outrageous statements during his 2000 election campaign."

Not what I said, monkeybrains. READ FOR COMPREHENSION.

WHEN and WHERE did Al Gore make the claim that he invented the Internet, feeb?

1:28 AM  
Blogger Clay said...

"oh, and thank you for not (yet) using the "barrack hussein obama," or "he was raised a Muslim" lines for obama. a message to all conservatives everywhere: that is the stupidist reason for hate i have heard."

Kevin, I wouldn't use those lines about Barack Obama. For one thing they are'nt true, and even if they were, what would that have to do with anything?

Your right it is the stupidist reason for hate.

7:08 AM  
Anonymous meatbrain said...

Still waiting. You made a claim, Clay. You can back it up with facts, or you can prove -- once again -- that you simply do not know what you are talking about.

WHEN and WHERE did Al Gore make the claim that he invented the Internet?

1:52 AM  
Blogger Clay said...

meatbrain,

Kindly refer to my second response to you so that you can understand why I am not going to play your game.

But, you might read Kevin's comment where he quotes Al Gore saying that he helped to invent the internet albeit with his spin on what he thinks Al Gore really meant to say, (but didn't).

7:47 PM  
Blogger Clay said...

"During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet," meaning that he promoted the internet.

Nice spin, but anyone who is familar with the history of the Internet and its formation knows that Al Gore had absolutely nothing to do with it.

In 1969 the DoD's DARPANET began what is now the Internet. At first, it only existed between college universities and labs but later branched out into the World Wide Web that it is today. Essentially a conglomeration of WANS interconnected by countless routers through the world.

Congress had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the Internet. Congress' only interest has been to hint at its wish to regulate and control it, which most people don't want especially hackers.

7:52 PM  
Anonymous meatbrain said...

"Kindly refer to my second response to you so that you can understand why I am not going to play your game."

It's obvious why you won't answer the question, idiot. YOU WERE LYING WHEN YOU SAID THAT AL GORE CLAIMED THAT HE INVENTED THE INTERNET.

I'll repeat that, 'cause I know you're really slow, and need the repetition to get the words through your thick skull.

YOU WERE LYING WHEN YOU SAID THAT AL GORE CLAIMED THAT HE INVENTED THE INTERNET.

"But, you might read Kevin's comment where he quotes Al Gore saying that he helped to invent the internet albeit with his spin on what he thinks Al Gore really meant to say, (but didn't)."

I did read Kevin's comment. Guess what, jackwad. He doesn't quote Al Gore "saying that he helped to invent the internet".

YOU'RE LYING AGAIN, MORON.

YOU'RE LYING AGAIN, MORON.

Once more, so it's crystal clear:

YOU'RE LYING AGAIN, MORON.

5:52 PM  
Anonymous meatbrain said...

"Nice spin, but anyone who is familar with the history of the Internet and its formation knows that Al Gore had absolutely nothing to do with it."

Nice lie, cretin, but anyone who is familar with the history of the Internet and its formation knows that you're full of shit, as usual.

From Al Gore's contributions to the Internet and technology:

--- begin quote ---

According to Campbell-Kelly and Aspray (Computer: A History of the Information Machine), up until the early 1990s public usage of the Internet was limited and the "problem of giving ordinary Americans network access had exercised Senator Al Gore since the late 1970s."

Of Gore's involvement in the then-developing Internet while in Congress, Internet pioneers Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn have also noted that,

"As far back as the 1970s Congressman Gore promoted the idea of high speed telecommunications as an engine for both economic growth and the improvement of our educational system. He was the first elected official to grasp the potential of computer communications to have a broader impact than just improving the conduct of science and scholarship [...] the Internet, as we know it today, was not deployed until 1983. When the Internet was still in the early stages of its deployment, Congressman Gore provided intellectual leadership by helping create the vision of the potential benefits of high speed computing and communication. As an example, he sponsored hearings on how advanced technologies might be put to use in areas like coordinating the response of government agencies to natural disasters and other crises.

As a Senator, Gore began to craft the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991 (commonly referred to as "The Gore Bill") after hearing the 1988 report Toward a National Research Network submitted to Congress by a group chaired by UCLA professor of computer science, Leonard Kleinrock, one of the central creators of the ARPANET (the ARPANET, first deployed by Kleinrock and others in 1969, is the predecessor of the Internet).

Indeed, Kleinrock would later credit both Gore and The Gore Bill (High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991) as a critical moment in Internet history:

"A second development occurred around this time, namely, then-Senator Al Gore, a strong and knowledgeable proponent of the Internet, promoted legislation that resulted in President George Bush signing the High Performance Computing and Communication Act of 1991. This Act allocated $600 million for high performance computing and for the creation of the National Research and Education Network. The NREN brought together industry, academia and government in a joint effort to accelerate the development and deployment of gigabit/sec networking."

The bill was passed on Dec. 9, 1991 and led to the National Information Infrastructure (NII) which Gore referred to as the "information superhighway". President George H. W. Bush predicted that the bill would help "unlock the secrets of DNA," open up foreign markets to free trade, and a promise of cooperation between government, academia, and industry.

Prior to its passage, Gore discussed the basics of the bill in an article for the September 1991 issue of Scientific American entitled Scientific American presents the September 1991 Single Copy Issue: Communications, Computers, and Networks. His essay, "Infrastructure for the Global Village", commented on the lack of network access described above and argued: "Rather than holding back, the U.S. should lead by building the information infrastructure, essential if all Americans are to gain access to this transforming technology" [...] "high speed networks must be built that tie together millions of computers, providing capabilities that we cannot even imagine."

--- end quote ---

You know, you could pull your head out of your lying ass and do a little research once in a while before shooting off your ignorant mouth. But then, you'd be somebody else, wouldn't you. You'd be somebody intelligent.

Are you enjoying being smacked down again and again by reality, dimwit lying gimboid? Or do you want to play this game for a while longer?

6:18 PM  
Blogger Clay said...

meatbrain,

As usual, all we get from you is rude, puerile comments.

It is interesting that you choose Wikipedia as your source, a source that is open to contributions by anyone, therefor, not necessarily true.

However, let's consider a quote from your source:

"A]s the two people who designed the basic architecture and the core protocols that make the Internet work, we would like to acknowledge VP Gore's contributions as a Congressman, Senator and as Vice President. No other elected official, to our knowledge, has made a greater contribution over a longer period of time. Last year the Vice President made a straightforward statement on his role. He said: "During my service in the United States Congress I took the initiative in creating the Internet." We don't think, as some people have argued, that Gore intended to claim he "invented" the Internet. Moreover, there is no question in our minds that while serving as Senator, Gore's initiatives had a significant and beneficial effect on the still-evolving Internet. The fact of the matter is that Gore was talking about and promoting the Internet long before most people were listening. We feel it is timely to offer our perspective."

So, we can gather that Al Gore did, in fact, state that he "invented the Internet" when he really wasn't one of the players involved in that.

It's just like his claims involving the Love Canal and being the inspiration of "Love Story", (which you keep ignoring). There is a pattern here with Al.

meatbrain, just keep on calling me a "cretin", a "moron" and the many other ad hominem attacks you use to cover the fact that you don't actually have a valid point to make.

Try to have a nice life somewhere else.

10:29 PM  

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